Last spring, Mike’s wife and our kids’ stepmom, Sherry gave some advice to a reader, Kelly, who felt like “just the sideline girlfriend” in a relationship with a co-parenting dad who was at times rather too close for comfort with his ex.
Recently, Alisha, another reader who is dating a devoted co-parenting dad, responded to what Sherry wrote, and asked for advice as she wonders if there is room in her boyfriend’s life, and heart, for her…and for any kids they may have together:
Sherry,
I have really appreciated your willingness to share your story, and provide an alternative to many less-peaceful stories I hear. Because you have shared my situation so closely, I ask for your advice.
I am dating a fabulous man with two little kiddos (son, 5, and daughter, 7) from a marriage that ended three years ago. It was a rough marriage, and a rough divorce, and my man is still smarting from it a little bit. To his ex’s credit, she has been supportive of my relationship with her children’s father- I’m sure it helps that she is re-married- and there has been no real tension between us other than a little awkwardness.
Personally, I am 29 and have never been married nor had children, and, also coming from a divorced family where dad was absent (and Mom is STILL seething), it is very touching to me that my boyfriend is a devoted dad with 50/50 custody. Admittedly, it is also difficult for me to understand. While I want the best for his kids (after all, I’ve been in his daughter’s shoes) it’s hard for me to hear him say, bluntly, “My kids will always come before you.” Going into a marriage (which we’re talking about) for the first time, I’m sure you held the same hopes I have have, of being cherished as a companion and confidant, and wondering if this desire died for my boyfriend with his first marriage. I fully hope to have children of my own (and so does he, he tells me), but I can’t help but worry that when he says his children come before me, that his first two children will come before mine. As I said, I want his kids to have happy, loved lives, but isn’t there room for more? Would it be fair for me to bring children into a marriage where they could be getting … emotional leftovers from their father? How can I bring up these concerns to my boyfriend and help him understand that I want his devotion to his children to continue, but also want to know there’s more room for me and my hopes and dreams than just the empty side of his bed?
Read on for Sherry’s response:
Dear Alisha:
I am sorry that you are having this crisis of heart. I do absolutely understand the dilemma that you are in. The first thing that I want to say to you is: Stay strong. Affairs of the heart take patience, compassion, love and honesty.
Picture this: It’s a hot day sometime in late July. This awesome blended family is winding its way down the Youghiogheny River. This new, modern-day family consists of two exes (Michael and Deesha), current wife (me), Deesha’s fiance (JB), a set of nieces, and two sets of daughters. Michael, JB’s niece, JB’s eldest daughter, and I are in one boat. In the second boat: Deesha, JB, my niece, Deesha and Michael’s two daughters, and JB’s second daughter.
Are you taking notes?
We are all paddling down the river after having had a wonderful rest on the side of the beach and some lunch. My “team” is in the lead as we continue down the river. We turn around and see JB and Deesha waving their hands and yelling. They’d capsized and all of them and ended up on sturdy rock big enough for all of them and about two to three elephants. My wonderful, dear husband dashes out of our boat, into cold waters, runs up the bank, through the woods (not to grandmother’s house, though).
Michael makes it to the area where “Savior Rock” is however, there are 3 class 3 rapids surrounding “Savior Rock” so he’s not able to get the them. During what I called a gallant attempt at rescue, my dear, wonderful husband slips, falls, and loses his glasses. He needs these glasses. He didn’t bring a spare pair or contacts because honestly who thinks that they’re going to looe the only pair of glasses that have in some vain attempt at rescue? Suffice it to say, I was angry but more hurt that the girls were safe on “Savior Rock,” I was safe on dry land trying to get help, and here he is blind, trying to save those most important to him…the girls.
We talked about it later, and he expressed to me his need to be his daughters’ savior, and I expressed to him my need to not be newly widowed, considering I was just getting acclimated to being a newlywed.
I understood his point of view. His job as a father is to save his daughters from the evils of the world. He would have gone into that water after his girls if they had been “our” girls, and–who knows?–I may have been right there with him getting swept down river. But at least I could see.
The second thing I want to say, Alisha, is: don’t give up hope. During the early years of our dating, Michael would often say that his kids came first. The pain of the divorce was hard for him. While his mind and body were ready for this new adventure called dating, his heart had not fully given over. I understood. I also understood that now his daughters were the recipients of the one thing I coveted from him….his whole heart. See, from his perspective, his kids will will not only love and adore him, but most importantly accept him. When they’re adults with families of their own they will look back and say, “You know, Dad never remembered to get us birthday cards for our birthdays, but he sure did play a mean game of Tickle Monster.” He’s daddy. He’s strong, dependable, Prince Charming, the man that knows everything about how to build the perfect tent and fry the perfect slice of bacon. He doesn’t have to put himself out on the line in anticipation of acceptance. They already accept him! Your significant other is hurting. He made “forever” promises, in front of family and friends only to have that end. That type of pain is hard to imagine. Now here you two are 3 years later talking about making those same promises again.
Third, give your boyfriend some time. Discuss with him openly and frankly but with understanding and compassion, what your future family picture looks like, and ask him what his looks like. You need to discuss, practically speaking, what he means when he makes the statement that “his children come first”. Would this include children that the two of you may have? Does he think that he could ever completely open his heart to love fully again? Put out some hypothetical situations and explain to him your fears. Ask the questions that may seem hard but fair and see what his responses are. He may just surprise you with the answers.
Just keep in mind that he’s scared…but willing. I hope that this helps you and please let me now how thing are going with you four.
Regards,
Sherry
Deesha adds a P.S.:
It was really interesting for me to read about our Yough river “adventure” from Sherry’s perspective. Last summer, we posted about the same event here.
Alisha, in addition to Sherry’s great advice, two books that I would recommend for you that I found extremely helpful as a step-mom-to-be are The Package Deal by Izzy Rose (you can read my review of it here), and Stepmonster by Wednesday Martin, PhD which I’m in the middle of reading right now. Both books, but Stepmonster in particular, deal with the importance and necessity of making the couple relationship central, even though the kids are important, of course. You may also want to check out the step-dating resources offered by The Step and Blended Family Institute; they deal with precisely the issues you’re talking about, and they help couples in this early stage so that their marriages can have a strong foundation.
Best,
~Deesha


What great information. I have to admit that I am that parent. When I first started dating my now husband, I told him that “my kids come first.”
I didn’t do it to be mean or to ward him off. I did out of respect for him and my children.
My kids do come first and they always will. But, that doesn’t mean that he can’t be a part of putting the kids first too.
He was so amazing when I told him that my kids come first. His response to me was, “I wouldn’t have it any other way.” That’s when I knew that he was the right one!
Over the next three years of our relationship, he definitely proved that he puts my kids first. And he always puts them first in everything. They may not be his biological children, but, he treats them as if they were.
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Thanks for stopping by, Erica! I stopped by your blog, read your post about co-parenting, and left a comment. Kudos to you, your ex, and your new partners for cooperatively co-parenting for your kids’ sake!
Best,
~Deesha
Thank you for sharing this. I am a single father and just being candid I have given my whole heart to my daughter. She would always come first if I were to connect again in life. Thanks again.
Hi, Brian…thanks for stopping by. It’s always great to hear from co-parenting dads.
Best,
~Deesha
I agree with Erica — I mean, his understanding that her child is her priority would certainly be a powerful foreshadowing of how he would treat their (joint) children if they decided to have any later. Adults can work our their own issues. It’s the kids who are impressionable and can easily misinterpret innocuous messages and benign actions. That beings said….
@ Alisha — Ask yourself how you would feel if the shoe were on the other foot? Not even sure we (or he) should think about a first, second, or third place. The love (and devotion) he has toward his own kids is different for the love and devotion he has toward you. Over the years, I have shared many of the same concerns you have with continuing on with a new relationship, albeit from my perspective as a single dad. I have thought, “Well, if she has her own kids already, would her (more than one) kids get more love than my one? And….If we have kids together, would my child suffer from feeling like the odd wheel? Would she ever love my kid as she loves her own (if applicable) or will my kid just be an unfortunate inconvenience in her eyes?” The answer to these questions are those that I’ve had to add to my “deal breaker” list I ask myself from the jump.
In the end, I think we can sometimes get ourselves in trouble when we start to think about our relationship with our partner as being similar to that we have with our children, but I know this is easier said than done. Good luck.
Excellent points, Single Dad!
Your comments reminds us that dating dads (and moms, too) put a lot of heart and thought into these issues.
And aren’t “deal breaker lists” great? So very important when considering a new partnership.
Best,
~Deesha
Single moms, dads, and kids…oh my!!
The fact is that when a family is blended together the love should multiply not divide…if it divides then no one needs to be in that situation!
There are times when step-mom/dad must realize that the top priority will be for the kids…and that is ALL the kids not his/her/ours. Why the delineation?
There was once an interview with Jada Pinkett-Smith and she mentioned that to love her (famous) husband and his child from a previous relationship, she had to also love the ex. This seems for many a very foreign concept, but the reality is that children are the product of two people and to love and respect them is to love, respect, and accept all the complexities that come with a blended family. We must find that love for all of them and in return we can expect a level of respect and love that is uncommon.
If you feel like you are second fiddle to anyone, the children included, then you may need to look at if you really see that this relationship is worth it for you. Only you can answer if it is indeed worth it for you.
Children will take top billing and priority. The children already accept their parent and love them above all other. The relationship between adults requires a level of devotion that must be worked at day after day. That work can be tiring, but fulfilling as well. The truth is that the previous relationship or marriage didn’t work despite the vows taken. It can sting and be a constant nagging fear. Even so, the choice to risk it again and even to produce more children is telling. No one likes to be hurt, rejected, etc. but if you can’t feel like you have any priority in your intended’s life, then maybe it is best to know that from the outset.
Just as we talk to our partners about finances and such we need to be frank and open of what we need and expect. Perhaps it is something that they cannot give and in that case it is best to know now rather than later.
Good luck to you. It sounds as if there is a conversation that should be had prior to jumping ahead to marriage and children between the two of you. Be gentle, but be clear. Only you two will know if this relationship is right for all of you…
Truth
Be gentle, but be clear.
Truth, that is a keeper. Says it all.
Today, I discovered a discussion of a Stepmoms’ Bill of Rights. This list addresses the fact that the “blending” and the love your wrote about may be ideal, but aren’t the reality for a lot of families. The good news, however, is that the stepfamily can still thrive. Here are the links:
http://thegrownupchild.ca/2010/01/another-view-on-the-stepmom%E2%80%99s-bill-of-rights/
http://becomingastepmom.wordpress.com/2010/01/22/a-revised-stepmoms-bill-of-rights/
Best,
~Deesha
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I understand the sentiment “My kids will always come first.” However, I have to say, I think this is a skewed way of looking at things. I made this mistake with my younger sister who I raised, saying she would always come first, before any other relationship. It made my relationship with her unbalanced. I didn’t have anyone else in my life, so I ended up alone. I was trying to compensate for the fact that my sister didn’t have a dad or a mom. I doubt that many people get married and say, “When we have kids, they become number one.” Not exactly part of the vows. Why should you accept that just because the person is divorced? There are many important relationships in life; I think that your man or woman needs to be willing to accept that there can be more than one number one relationship. Give the important people in your life dignity and respect. All of them.